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RE: Tree failure potential assessment study See Tree Risk-Benefit Management Strategy | Update Inbox

Subject: RE: Tree failure potential assessment study See Tree Risk-Benefit Management Strategy | Update Inbox
From: Alastair Durkin
Date: Jan 28 2020 08:17:45
When looking at the scenarios within NTSG Common Sense Risk Management of 
Trees I can see a number of situations where the ability to photograph 
something and send to somebody more qualified for triage would be the ideal 
infill between periodic formal inspections by a qualified arborist, and on 
the job observations, by, for example, the head gardener of an estate open to 
the public.

Alastair


-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info <uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info> 
On Behalf Of AV Arboriculture
Sent: 27 January 2020 19:49
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: Re: Tree failure potential assessment study See Tree Risk-Benefit 
Management Strategy | Update Inbox

Wayne, I'm not sure what kind of database you mean?  I would argue that every 
tree and its content is completely unique and needs to be assessed as such, 
albeit using any of the (mental or physical) tools that we have tat our 
disposal.  I guess could be some relevance to a database when it comes to 
general species characteristics; maybe you could explain further?  But when 
it comes to tree assessment, I think that there should always be an interface 
between quasi-quantitative knowledge and opinion - opinion that is bolstered 
by experience, knowledge and critical & analytical thinking.

That's my tuppence worth. 

Mike Charkow 


----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne Tyson" <wt750mv@xxxxxx.com>
To: "uktc" <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Sent: Monday, 27 January, 2020 19:40:29
Subject: Tree failure potential assessment study See Tree Risk-Benefit 
Management Strategy | Update Inbox

This is intended to relate my own perspective on the subject, with which I 
understand that some may differ. I intend to post several times, in the hopes 
of simplifying the discussion by discussing one issue or coherent subject at 
a time, perhaps ending with a general and more comprehensive discussion of 
the results. Of course, I entertain no illusions that the discussion will 
ever "end," nor, in my view, should it. I *hope* that posts and responses 
will be confined to *issues*, with personalities left out. I am not, however, 
going to hold my breath.

My study is restricted to assessment of the condition of the tree; it leaves 
out any consideration of "risk."

For starters, I believe that the biggest elephant in the room is the absence 
of useful data. I know of no central database for the assembly of relevant 
data and a sufficiently disciplined practice of data collection and 
contribution to a central database that can be readily accessed and assembled 
according to the user's needs. "Opinion" is dangerous territory, especially 
in the absence of relevant facts.

Feel free to post your own relevant subjects or issues for discussion--I'm 
not trying to run the show here.

Wayne
US foreigner



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