Jerry,
There were a number of chemicals which either had ingredients
changed or are no longer made due to changes in chemical regs and cost of
testing , these were things like renadene (not sure about spelling ) a
repellent for deer and rabbits.
Will
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From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info <uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
On Behalf Of Jerry Ross
Sent: 21 September 2020 23:07
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: RE: Translocation of Herbicide
It's a very effective stump killer and much nicer than SBK. Water soluble and
breaks down quickly into ammonium sulphate, an inorganic fertiliser. So no
questionable persistent residues to cause problems. And cheap, which is why
it's no longer licensed: it was deemed not to be commercially viable to put
it through the licencing procedure. (I was told)
From my mobile
On 21 September 2020 22:46:57 "willross583@xxxxxxxxxxx.com"
<uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info> wrote:
Jerry,
I remember Ammonium Sulphamate being used amongst other things
such as
brushwood killer mixed with Diesel or Oil. Think I'll stick with a
strimmer
or just thought we have Roe on site who are happy to munch any
unprotected
tree growth and it will hopefully keep them away from Hazel shoots.
Will
-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info
<uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
On Behalf Of Jerry Ross
Sent: 21 September 2020 17:01
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: Re: Translocation of Herbicide
Ammonium sulphamate was good stuff if used properly. (And it's still
available - you just have to ask for compost accelerant!). But I did
have an incident where a less than conscientious employee (I'm being
polite
here) who had been sent off to treat some stumps evidently shovelled
the stuff on and killed adjacent trees about 5m away. Not sure if it
was root grafts; I suspect he might just have poisoned the soil.
Copper nails to kill trees on Amazon! You'd think the Advertising
Standarda The weird thing is that 62% of the reviews are 5 star!
e.g. Reviewed in Germany on 7 November 2019: 5.0 out of 5 stars Super :)
Verified Purchase
"pick pick pick und 1 Jahr später war die Wurzel kaputt :) perfekt"
(One wonders if the wurzel was kaputt already)
On 21/09/2020 16:16, elsteadbysea@xxxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:
Only use if killing all the trees as other have commented there will
be root connections.
Long gone are the treatments for individual stumps, one was Ammonium
sulphamate
I see that copper nails are available on Amazon for killing stumps,
30 nails for £8.24.
Phillip
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From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info
<uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info> On Behalf Of Tahir Sharif
Sent: 21 September 2020 15:51
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: Re: Translocation of Herbicide
We've used neat glyphosate on stumps in the orchard with no
discernible effect on adjacent trees (4.25mtr between rows, 3 mtrs between
trees).
Is it the type of weedkiller, or species? There must be root grafting
going on in our plantings at such high density.
Tahir
On 21/09/2020 15:45, steve vessey wrote:
Yes, I've had experience of this also. Thinning a line of ash trees
on a roadside verge 20yrs ago, removing every other one and
treating the stumps with an approved herbicide. All of the other
trees without exception severely declined as a direct result of the
herbicide. They did recover slowly, just in time to get Ash Dieback and
die recently.
I would never suggest using the said herbicide again where adjacent
trees are to be retained
Tree Generation
Lincolnshire
07719 XXXXXX
On Mon, 21 Sep 2020, 14:50 oldoaktree@xxxxxxxxx.net, <
uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info> wrote:
Agreed. I have seen poplars stumps which have been treated flashback'
to other poplars over 10 metres away.
Instant results with a stump grinder though. Saves getting the goats in.
Cheers
Dave
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From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info
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On Behalf Of willross583@xxxxxxxxxxx.com
Sent: 21 September 2020 14:32
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: RE: Translocation of Herbicide
Kevin,
I agree and will not even suggest treatment trees of the
same species are to be retained nearby, probably best to strim off
as its in a POS so livestock may eat other trees ,escape or end up
supplementing someone's diet all of which are rather difficult to
explain to the client !
Will
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<uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
On Behalf Of Kevin Slezacek
Sent: 21 September 2020 14:20
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: RE: Translocation of Herbicide
I've seen a mature lime die off within a couple of years due to an
adjacent lime being felled and the stump treated. This was clearly
from root grafting so yes clonal suckering of Poplar is likely to
result in death/ decline of neighbouring trees. Control might need
to be regular cutting or perhaps grazing?
Kind regards,
Kevin Slezacek
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On Behalf Of willross583@xxxxxxxxxxx.com
Sent: 21 September 2020 14:06
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: Translocation of Herbicide
All,
Having a slight difference of opinion with an ecologist, said
ecologist requires thinning of Aspen in a small copse and has
specified treating of stumps with herbicide, something I won't
sanction as some are suckers and I'm of the opinion that the
suckers will be connected to other trees, also any seedlings will
be likely to have root grafts due to proximity to each other, have
already made my mind up but options/thoughts welcome as said
ecologist is of a strong mind.
Will
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