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Redwoods in the English countryside!!!! ruffle a few feathers haha

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On 22/10/2020 16:08, Brynley Andrews wrote:

Hi Charlie
Thanks for the input. The project does involve a lot of natives - it is
just not being led by the natives only model.
Redwoods in the English countryside!!!! ruffle a few feathers haha
The list below. Thanks
Bryn
1 Hazel
2 Coast redwood
3 Beech
4 Pedunculate oak
5 Aspen
6 Rauli beech
7 Grey alder
8 Rowan
9 Wild service tree
10 Hornbeam
11 Small-leaved lime
12 Wild cherry
13 White willow
14 Holly
15 Scots pine
16 Western red cedar
17 Lodgepole pine
18 Giant redwood
19 Silver birch
20 Black poplar
21 Common alder
22 Red alder
23 Italian alder
24 True service tree
25 Wych elm

On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 at 12:35, Charlie Ashworth <charlie@xxxxxxxxxx.org.uk>
wrote:

Bryn,

Sorry, my interest was in specifics.

But re your interest, there is a need to plant a diverse range of species
to meet climate/environmental changes, but if we stop planting natives in
groups then we are not even giving them a chance to adapt.  I understand
the desire to plant for successful timber production, but there should be a
balance between the old and the new - as there would be in a natural,
unplanted, woodland environment - as well as a balance between profit and
benevolence.

Charlie


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On 22 Oct 2020, at 09:59, Brynley Andrews <brynley.andrews@xxxxxx.com>

wrote:

Charlie, Tahir, Jim
Thanks for the replies.

The current farmland covers 120ha and we are aiming for planting ~ 15ha

of

woodland. Orchards and parkland are also happening. A further ~ 400ha are
in the pipeline.

The specifics about right species and management are not what interest me
here, which is the battle between the old 'native species are best

mantra'

and modern 'climate/carbon/futurism' models. My point being - surely it

is

time for climate/carbon/futurism, and therefore, those pushing natives

as a

knee jerk response are out of touch?

Being slightly provocative for the sake of debate.

Thanks

Bryn

On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 at 09:31, Jim Quaife <jq@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.co.uk>

wrote:

Hi Brynley,
Sounds like a really absorbing project, but with no details about

anything

all one can say is that depending upon scale there is usually a
compromise.  The ambition for a sawmill is very much long term if it is
based on current planting!
The appetite for a sawmill suggests that there is already some

production

in view, but again a sawmill can be a Woodmizer (or something similar -
owned or contract hire) or a static installation.   If it is to be

anything

other than casual/incidental the throughput needs to be substantial.
The use of exotics is to my mind essential as a diversity safeguard for
bio-security.
The fascination with woodlands is that they can accommodate a wide range
of interests and the role of the consultant is to explore them all and

to

come up with a balanced scheme.  Again, depending upon scale it doesn't
necessarily have to be done in one hit.
Enjoy!
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info [mailto:
uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info] On Behalf Of Brynley Andrews
Sent: 22 October 2020 08:49
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: Natives vs future

Dear all

I am involved in a large scale farm woodland planting scheme.

The FC favour high performance carbon/timber/eco species, and the

ANOB/LA

landscape planners favour traditional species to form traditional

landscape

features.

There is considerable overlap potential but the FC seem to be more

inline

with modern thinking. And arguably the LA/ANOB are part of the old

failed

model.

Also, The landowner intends to eventually run a sawmill on the Eatate.

I am proposing a highly diverse mix of 50/50 exotics & natives as suits

the

soil/climate/objectives - with special emphasis on targeting habitat for
priority fauna species.

It is a fun project & I welcome your input.

Thanks

Brynley

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