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Re: Powers to require that a "dangerous" tree be removed

Subject: Re: Powers to require that a "dangerous" tree be removed
From: Adam Maskill
Date: Oct 28 2020 08:18:22
Alastair, that sounds like the sensible way of dealing with it. This reminds 
me that Cornwall County Council had quite a lengthy policy on this: 
https://www.cornwall.gov.uk/media/3625018/Dangerous-Trees-Procedure-Note-1-.pdf

Kind regards,
Adam



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Well-said Alastair. I suspect a few of us Local Authority 'lurkers' are a bit 
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On Behalf Of Alastair Durkin
Sent: 27 October 2020 10:22
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: RE: Powers to require that a "dangerous" tree be removed

Hi Adam, I think what you are referring to is the doctrine of 'legitimate 
expectation' . I suspect the key for not falling foul of a judicial review on 
such a basis is to develop a policy for the administration of the Misc 
Provisions Act that allows you flexibility in decision making - thereby 
leaving no fixed expectation of action.

Alastair


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Sent: 27 October 2020 09:28
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Subject: Re: Powers to require that a "dangerous" tree be removed

I seem to remember someone suggesting that if the council use those powers 
once, that they are then obliged to use them forever more. I don't recall 
seeing any legislation or other advice that would back that up. Would be good 
to hear if anyone can clarify.
Kind regards,
Adam



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Subject: RE: Powers to require that a "dangerous" tree be removed

Hi Jonathan - what Paul said, but also adding that the powers available are 
discretionary, and different LAs will no doubt have different polices for use 
or otherwise of the Misc Provisions Act powers.

UKTC has got into what happens if an LA is asked to act. and they choose not 
to, and then someone gets hurt, but it just rumbled on without a conclusion I 
think!

Alastair


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Subject: Re: Powers to require that a "dangerous" tree be removed

HI Jonathan

Think you’re probably looking for Local Gov (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 
1976, section 23.  The LA has power to take action under Act, initially 
instructing the owner to make safe, or failing that, the LA may act itself.  
If the owner cannot pay for the work a land charge can be placed on the 
property.

If I remember rightly need to be approached by concerned person who could be 
directly affected by the said tree.  The Environmental Health teams are 
usually the ones with the knowledge and power to enforce.

If the tree affects the highway, the the Highways Act maybe most appropriate 
response, via Highway Dept.

Regards
Paul

On 23 Oct 2020, at 17:37, Jonathan Hazell <go2jonathan.hazell@xxxxxx.com> 
wrote:

Dear all,

Are there powers available that will require a tree owner to remove a
tree that has been assessed by someone to be "dangerous" to third parties?

I know about S215 of the TCPA, but I don't think it applies to a
dangerous tree, does anyone know different?

Does the HSE have any powers?

Or is it simply a civil matter?

Jonathan

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