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RE: tree id please

Subject: RE: tree id please
From: Rupert Baker
Date: Oct 31 2020 13:20:10
Hi Philip, yes, pretty much;  the fruit and leaf are much more like Pyrus 
than Malus; and the fruit having stone cells in the flesh tends to confirm 
that.
But thanks for the suggestion - as you say there are shed-loads of ornamental 
malus out there...
PS did you know that apples, as in easting/cooking ones, evolved for seed 
dispersal by bears.....
Atb
Rupert

-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info On Behalf Of Philip Wilson
Sent: 31 October 2020 08:45
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: RE: tree id please

Rupert,
Have you ruled out Malus? One of the Oriental species, perhaps grown for 
blossom given that the fruit are nondescript?
Philip

-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info 
[mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info] On Behalf Of Rupert Baker
Sent: 30 October 2020 18:43
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: RE: tree id please

Hi Giles,
It could be, though I thought that had tomentose undersides to the leaves; 
and as you say, the bark is wrong; another possibility is P ussuriensis - but 
that is supposed to have good autumn colour and these 2 were showing no signs 
- maybe just very late in turning. I will see if anyone working at Killerton 
knows; - if I can get through to the right person;  I used to know the head 
gardener, and the one before him, but not sure who is there now Atb Rupert

-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info On Behalf Of GILES HILL
Sent: 30 October 2020 18:09
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: RE: tree id please


Pyrus nivalis, looks like it might fit the bill, not sure about the smooth 
bark though.






------ Original Message ------
From: "Rupert Baker" <rupert_baker@xxxxxxxx.co.uk>
To: "UK Tree Care" <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Sent: Friday, 30 Oct, 20 At 18:01
Subject: RE: tree id please
Hi John,
Yes but... it is not a stone fruit; it seem to be most similar to Pyrus 
cordata the ' Plymouth Pear' - a rare archeotype in UK found in Plymouth and 
Truro, but common in (and probably truly native to) Galicia, the Basque 
Country and Brittany; I reckon it is definitely a Pyrus of some sort; p. 
cordata has bigger fruit, and shows the remains of sepals around the 
flower-scar; but otherwise pretty similar.
Any more suggestions welcomed!
Atb
Rupert
-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info On Behalf Of Jon Heuch
Sent: 30 October 2020 17:22
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: tree id please
It has some similarities to Mirabelle cherry x plum (that I was looking at in 
a garden centre the other day; luckily the labels assist my ID skills!).
The petiole reminds me of some Prunus varieties. With the nurserymen/breeders 
involved they could have mixed all sorts of things..

Jon



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