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RE: Heave Risk Assessment

Subject: RE: Heave Risk Assessment
From: Brewster, Ian
Date: Jan 20 2021 15:48:48
…..Or prune to the same canopy size the tree was when the building was built, 
or phase out and plant another to balance…
How do you convince others that this is the best way forward, when dealing 
with ££££££ worth of property?

From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info <uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info> 
On Behalf Of Jerry Ross
Sent: 20 January 2021 15:43
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: Re: Heave Risk Assessment

You have a building and a tree.
It's suffered subs damage.
It might, possibly, suffer heave damage.
Keep the tree and continue (possibly) to have subs damage.
Fell the tree and (possibly) have heave damage.
Someone has to bite a bullet, because ongoing damage seems to be a
possibility either way.




On 20/01/2021 13:47, "theapsy@xxxxxx.com<mailto:theapsy@xxxxxx.com>" 
(theapsy@xxxxxx.com<mailto:theapsy@xxxxxx.com>) wrote:
Hi Jim,
Yes, Oak roots identified under the foundations.
Pretty much all the evidence is there to implicate the Oak.
Cheers
Trevor

On Wednesday, January 20, 2021, 01:24:32 PM GMT, Jim Quaife 
<jq@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.co.uk<mailto:jq@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.co.uk>> wrote:

The obvious question is whether there are roots beneath the foundations?
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: 
uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info<mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
 [mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info] On Behalf Of 
"theapsy@xxxxxx.com<mailto:theapsy@xxxxxx.com>"
Sent: 20 January 2021 13:23
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: Re: Heave Risk Assessment

Trial pits dug, soils tested etc already.
I was just hoping to pass on the heave risk assessment to someone else (who 
is better insured).
Cheers
Trevor Heaps BSc(Hons), MICFor, M.Arbor.A
Chartered Arboriculturist

Trevor Heaps Arboricultural Consultancy Ltd.
12 Plover DriveMilford on SeaHampshireSO421 0XF
Mobile: 07957 XXX XXX
E-mail: trevor@xxxxxxxxxxxx.co.uk<mailto:trevor@xxxxxxxxxxxx.co.uk>
Website: http://www.trevorheaps.co.uk<http://www.trevorheaps.co.uk>

    On Wednesday, January 20, 2021, 01:07:47 PM GMT, Jim Quaife 
<jq@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.co.uk<mailto:jq@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.co.uk>> wrote:

In which case you do need a trail pit!
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: 
uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info<mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
 [mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info] On Behalf Of 
"theapsy@xxxxxx.com<mailto:theapsy@xxxxxx.com>"
Sent: 20 January 2021 12:42
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: Re: Heave Risk Assessment

Hi Jim,
The Oak is probably about 70-80 years older than the (subsidence damaged) 
bungalow.
I was worried about recommending the Oak to be felled - before checking 
whether or not heave might occur after the expected recovery.
Cheers
Trevor

    On Wednesday, January 20, 2021, 12:35:52 PM GMT, Jim Quaife 
<jq@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.co.uk<mailto:jq@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.co.uk>> wrote:

When subs has occurred the removal of the offending tree is usually 
recommended by insurers as the correcting action.
The mechanism that causes heave is different to subsidence - the reverse of 
subs is re-wetting.
I don't know the circs of your case but don't get the two confused.
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: 
uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info<mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
 [mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info] On Behalf Of 
"theapsy@xxxxxx.com<mailto:theapsy@xxxxxx.com>"
Sent: 20 January 2021 11:28
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: Heave Risk Assessment

Hi All,
Does anyone know a good firm who undertakes heave risk assessments?
A bungalow has subsided, a mature Oak (much older than the bungalow) 
growing a few metres away on heavy clay soil is almost certainly the main 
cause, but I need to check on the risk of heave before advising further.
Cheers
Trevor






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…..Or prune to the same canopy size the tree was when the building was built, 
or phase out and plant another to balance…
How do you convince others that this is the best way forward, when dealing 
with ££££££ worth of property?

From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info <uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info> 
On Behalf Of Jerry Ross
Sent: 20 January 2021 15:43
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: Re: Heave Risk Assessment

You have a building and a tree.
It's suffered subs damage.
It might, possibly, suffer heave damage.
Keep the tree and continue (possibly) to have subs damage.
Fell the tree and (possibly) have heave damage.
Someone has to bite a bullet, because ongoing damage seems to be a
possibility either way.




On 20/01/2021 13:47, "theapsy@xxxxxx.com<mailto:theapsy@xxxxxx.com>" 
(theapsy@xxxxxx.com<mailto:theapsy@xxxxxx.com>) wrote:
Hi Jim,
Yes, Oak roots identified under the foundations.
Pretty much all the evidence is there to implicate the Oak.
Cheers
Trevor

On Wednesday, January 20, 2021, 01:24:32 PM GMT, Jim Quaife 
<jq@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.co.uk<mailto:jq@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.co.uk>> wrote:

The obvious question is whether there are roots beneath the foundations?
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: 
uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info<mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
 [mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info] On Behalf Of 
"theapsy@xxxxxx.com<mailto:theapsy@xxxxxx.com>"
Sent: 20 January 2021 13:23
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: Re: Heave Risk Assessment

Trial pits dug, soils tested etc already.
I was just hoping to pass on the heave risk assessment to someone else (who 
is better insured).
Cheers
Trevor Heaps BSc(Hons), MICFor, M.Arbor.A
Chartered Arboriculturist

Trevor Heaps Arboricultural Consultancy Ltd.
12 Plover DriveMilford on SeaHampshireSO421 0XF
Mobile: 07957 XXX XXX
E-mail: trevor@xxxxxxxxxxxx.co.uk<mailto:trevor@xxxxxxxxxxxx.co.uk>
Website: http://www.trevorheaps.co.uk<http://www.trevorheaps.co.uk>

    On Wednesday, January 20, 2021, 01:07:47 PM GMT, Jim Quaife 
<jq@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.co.uk<mailto:jq@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.co.uk>> wrote:

In which case you do need a trail pit!
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: 
uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info<mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
 [mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info] On Behalf Of 
"theapsy@xxxxxx.com<mailto:theapsy@xxxxxx.com>"
Sent: 20 January 2021 12:42
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: Re: Heave Risk Assessment

Hi Jim,
The Oak is probably about 70-80 years older than the (subsidence damaged) 
bungalow.
I was worried about recommending the Oak to be felled - before checking 
whether or not heave might occur after the expected recovery.
Cheers
Trevor

    On Wednesday, January 20, 2021, 12:35:52 PM GMT, Jim Quaife 
<jq@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.co.uk<mailto:jq@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.co.uk>> wrote:

When subs has occurred the removal of the offending tree is usually 
recommended by insurers as the correcting action.
The mechanism that causes heave is different to subsidence - the reverse of 
subs is re-wetting.
I don't know the circs of your case but don't get the two confused.
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: 
uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info<mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
 [mailto:uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info] On Behalf Of 
"theapsy@xxxxxx.com<mailto:theapsy@xxxxxx.com>"
Sent: 20 January 2021 11:28
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: Heave Risk Assessment

Hi All,
Does anyone know a good firm who undertakes heave risk assessments?
A bungalow has subsided, a mature Oak (much older than the bungalow) 
growing a few metres away on heavy clay soil is almost certainly the main 
cause, but I need to check on the risk of heave before advising further.
Cheers
Trevor






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