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How you advertise is part of it, but not all. This is what proper
credentials are supposed to help sort out, but it seems that many
credential holders are as clueless as the public about it. But that's my
opinion from where it now sit with 30 years of independent consulting:
I'll admit to some bias in my codgerly point of view.
I still remember starting out, thinking I could jump in to being a
consultant. The wizened old guys who got there before me smiled kindly,
and said "You just keep thinkin', Butch." I did not know how far I had to
go to earn that title of consultant. Those of you who made it that far,
you understand. It is far more than a title or a job, or simply declaring
yourself a consultant on a business card.
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Russ Carlson, RCA, BCMA
ASCA Registered Consulting Arborist #354
ISA Board Certified Master Arborist PD-0008B
ISA Tree Risk Assessment Qualification
Tree Tech Consulting
114 Grand Canyon Court
Bear, DE 19701
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On 9/6/21 1:33 PM, Michael Richardson wrote:
For arborists (in NA) the issue comes down to what are you advertising
and
selling yourself as. Tree removal is not tree consulting.
Certification/qualification is not much without experience.
In North America those that advertise themselves as TRAQ have a higher
standard of care to meet than those advertising themselves as ABC Tree
Removal. I have seen countless people present themselves on their cards
and websites as:
Joe Tree Guy, ISA CA, TRAQ
Professional Tree Service
Saying you have a qualification and you are professional sets a higher
standard. Where that standard is for a specific case is of course the
purview of the judge or much more often the lawyers recognize the
strength
of the case is eroded by the arborist presenting themselves as something
they are not.
M
Michael Richardson B.Sc.F., BCMA
Ontario MTCU Qualified Arborist
Richardson Tree Care
Richardsontreecare.ca
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On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 1:17 PM Russ Carlson <thearborist@xxxx.com>
wrote:
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Good observations, Michael.It provides a basis for discerning between
the
two terms, but needs more refinement as to exactly (or approximately)
where that distinction lies. For example, I often find it necessary to
distinguish between the production arborist and some defined higher
level
of education or experience. So many forensic cases come down to who
should have known, and when should they have known it.
---
Russ Carlson, RCA, BCMA
ASCA Registered Consulting Arborist #354
ISA Board Certified Master Arborist PD-0008B
ISA Tree Risk Assessment Qualification
Tree Tech Consulting
114 Grand Canyon Court
Bear, DE 19701
302.832.1911 phone thearborist@xxxx.com www.tree-tech.com
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On 9/6/21 12:39 PM, Michael Richardson wrote:
It seems to me the simple difference between the ability to identify
obvious vs. subtle is:
obvious: a reasonable expectation that a person would notice the
defect
if
it was on their tree;
subtle: a reasonable expectation that a person presenting themselves
as
providing tree knowledge would identify. The issue here is can a
tree
service or contractor performing work (only) be expected to identify
(and
assess) subtle risk factors.
Michael
Michael Richardson B.Sc.F., BCMA
Ontario MTCU Qualified Arborist
Richardson Tree Care
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On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 12:24 PM Wayne Tyson <wt750mv@xxxxxx.com>
wrote:
I know you get a lot of flak, but I have to hand it to you for
making
the
effort. It doesn't have to be perfect, and just moving the ball is
to
be
commended. Perhaps a discussion regarding the line dividing
"obvious"
from
"subtle" would be worthwhile?
WT
On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 7:19 AM David Evans <
david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com > wrote:
Hi
We've got some rough wireframe sketches of how the Tree Alert
App is
looking
up on the News page of VALID's website, if you're interested.
https://validtreerisk.help/News There're more
details in the link. In short, it's something like the
Obvious Tree Risk Features Guide in App form, and will be free
for
anyone
to
use.
Because it's an App, there's more room for a rogue's gallery of
obvious
tree
risk features. The post is a call to see whether anyone has any
high
quality photos to share of:
1) Partial root failure
2) Broken or hanging branches
3) Cracks or splits
4) Advanced decline or death
5) Fungal brackets (an abundance of them)
6) Construction damage
Those of you who have followed the idea of Tree Alert might
notice
that
Construction Damage has been added, which we figured might be a
useful
addition for local government - citizen development site
supervision.
The photos need to be both high quality and easy for a civilian
to
understand.
Cheers
Acer Ventura
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