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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Outline planning approval

Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Outline planning approval
From: Bill Anderson
Date: Sep 07 2021 15:30:59
The TPO guide is quite clear Mark, Areas are temporary. I'd object to an
Area Order and get something in writing that said it was temporary.
Something that I could wave about 5 years later to show that it was never
the intention for it to be permanent. Preferably minuted in whatever
committee meeting confirmed it.

I've currently got an LPA trying to tell me that objections won't be
considered unless there's more than 5 objectors, which I'd say is simply
anti democratic and probably worthy of High Court challenge.


On Tue, 7 Sept 2021 at 16:24, Mark Hinsley <markhinsley@xxxxxxxxxxx.info>
wrote:

We would object to it being an 'Area Order' but state in that objection
that we would accept one based on groups and individuals. If you don't
object (or even if you do) some LPAs are still confirming Area TPOs.

Mark

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On Behalf Of Bill Anderson
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Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Outline planning approval

Well not if it's a conservation area or there's a TPO..... Permission to
work on those only exists once the planning permission is met, ie the
conditions are discharged.
I keep telling Planners to serve a simple "area" Order (if they're
concerned) on the grounds "it's just a precaution to prevent pre-emptive
felling." (While the planning application is in progress.) This is
impossible to object to wouldn't you say?

On Tue, 7 Sept 2021 at 14:24, Jerry Ross <trees@xxxxxxxxxx.co.uk> wrote:

OKaaay
So that condition (and the hundreds of others I've seen) is just a
waste of time.
And as a disinterested advisor I should presumably be advising clients
to remove any trees they don't fancy, just as long as they do it
before doing any demolition or breaking ground.


On 07/09/2021 14:04, Howe, Ron wrote:
Correct ... it's not an offence.

Ron


-----Original Message-----
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uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info> On Behalf Of Jerry Ross
Sent: 07 September 2021 13:11
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Outline planning approval

Interesting.
So someone taking on a site with PP could start off by clearing all
the
trees that weren't protected by CA or TPO, without any penalty.


On 07/09/2021 12:51, Alastair Durkin wrote:
A condition only kicks in once a development has
commenced/implemented.
Otherwise it's as Bill says.

Alastair
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