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RE: School or college Tree Risk-Benefit Management Strategy | New

Subject: RE: School or college Tree Risk-Benefit Management Strategy | New
From: pwassenaer1022
Date: Nov 18 2021 21:32:48
Yes but please teach us instead of just criticizing and doubting just about 
everything we are doing....

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From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info <uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info> 
On Behalf Of Wayne Tyson
Sent: November 18, 2021 4:06 PM
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: Re: School or college Tree Risk-Benefit Management Strategy | New

" Shall we learn and move assessments forward?"

Yes.

WT

On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 10:30 AM Michael Richardson < 
richardsontreecare@xxxxxx.com> wrote:

Wayne, what is your point?  "*The problem remains that there is no way 
to determine for certain when the tree will fail, if ever, depending 
upon a constantly-changing, imponderably complex context*."  Shall we do 
nothing?
Shall we cut every tree?  Shall we use our knowledge, training, and 
experience?  Shall we learn and move assessments forward?  Perhaps you 
believe that we are incapable of working with uncertainty?

 Perhaps you can provide a better strategy we can all learn from and 
critique.


Michael Richardson B.Sc.F., BCMA
Ontario MTCU Qualified Arborist
Richardson Tree Care
Richardsontreecare.ca
613-475-2877
800-769-9183

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On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 1:19 PM Wayne Tyson <wt750mv@xxxxxx.com> wrote:

If tree assessment following storms means looking for leaners, 
cracks in the soil (usually on the side opposite the lean), and 
raised soil on one side of the tree, the tree may be terminally 
weakened. There have been cases where the remaining root system was 
strong enough to hold that position long enough for new growth to 
continue to add a component of resistance, allowing the tree to 
remain for several years. The problem
is,
the tree remains out of balance, and as the canopy continues to 
grow,
more
weight is added to a longer moment-arm, increasing the tension which 
the remaining damaged root system and any new root growth must 
resist. The problem remains that there is no way to determine for 
certain when the
tree
will fail, if ever, depending upon a constantly-changing, 
imponderably complex context.

WT

On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 4:56 AM David Evans 
<david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com>
wrote:

This might interest those of you who carry out tree risk 
assessments at schools or colleges

We've just uploaded and shared a new Tree Risk-Benefit Management
Strategy
template for schools or colleges in the Landowner section of the 
Risk Management page on our website.

https://validtreerisk.help/Risk-Management

This work was prompted by a Validator asking for some client guidance.
As
with the other Strategies and publications, we've waived 
copyright, and it's shared under a creative commons licence.

The difference between the Landowner & School Strategies is the 
size of land and number of staff.

Landowner
Many staff who spend a lot of time working outside have been 
trained as Basic Validators.  Like the University of Dundee.

School
Usually, one or two caretakers who spend some time working outside 
and haven't been trained as Basic Validators.  When they're 
outside, they
carry
out Passive Assessment by keeping an eye out for Obvious Tree Risk 
Features; particularly after storms.

Cheers

Acer Ventura




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