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RE: WMP Opinions

Subject: RE: WMP Opinions
From: willross583@xxxxxxxxxxx.com
Date: Nov 21 2021 17:45:19
Both Thanks,
                       I think the small woods MP will suffice in this case 
as its only 5 acres so approx. 2 Ha . The main reason I want to go for a FC 
WMP is to tick all the boxes  and meet the UKFS as it’s a sensitive area  
although I will ned to check the clients proposal in case its classified as 
garden and they have designs on a woodland garden/arboretum, its all at an 
early stage but I will be recommending a detailed WMP of some sort.

Will  

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Subject: Re: WMP Opinions

Steve,

To be eligible for the woodland planning grant the woodland only needs to be 
larger than 3ha and it needs to be registered (or at least 3ha of it) under 
an SBI number with the Rural Payments Agency.
A non competitive grant with a minimum payment of £1000.00

Regards
Oli


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On Sun, 21 Nov 2021 at 15:29, steve vessey <steve.vessey73@xxxxxx.com> wrote:

If the woodland is under 10ha and is not on the RLR meaning no grant 
could be applied for to help produce the plan. You could possibly go 
down the route of a small woodland management plan? This is a 
condensed version of the full WMP but is still UKFS compliant and 
includes the plan of operations within the text and not as a separate 
document.  It also gives
10 year felling approval.

Hope this helps?

Steve

Tree Generation
Lincolnshire
07719 XXXXXX

On Sun, 21 Nov 2021, 15:08 willross583@xxxxxxxxxxx.com, < 
uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info> wrote:

John,
          I agree it's a tricky one, definitely a wood with a house 
in it rather than a house with a wood. Wood predates house by over a 
100yrs if not longer. LPA is not the easiest in the world, also we 
are likely to
have
ecological issues with Bats etc, my reasoning behind a FC WMP is as 
a
base
doc and we may well need to fell over 5m3 of Ash I'd rather be on 
the cautious side rather in the case the client has neighbour 
complaining. In any case we would need a WMP and our planning 
consultant likes things
black
and white , I've found the FC format useful in a previous case both
dealing
with interested locals and the LPA although this was for 80 plus 
acres with multiple compartments and designations and EPS present. 
In this case it's a matter of speaking to the FC and the client , 
thanks for your comments its given me a couple of things to think about.

Will

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Subject: WMP Opinions

[Text converted from HTML]
 Will
It's a problem that I have come across quite a few times, typically 
too late as the planning process has started and the issue of FC 
involvement
&
a WMP option are something of an irrelevance.
If the building is a domestic property, is the woodland their 
garden? If so, there is an exemption for a felling licence. Felling 
therefore is a matter of the TPO alone (& thus the local authority). 
Would the FC assist with a management plan for a small woodland if 
they thought it was a garden? Not sure but possibly not.
What if the woodland was a separate entity either on Land Registry, 
or separate parcel of land? Not a garden. Capital gains tax 
implications,
but
a felling licence may be required (depending on volumes & timing). 
FC
duty
bound to engage, but which procedure they would follow (s15 Forestry 
Act
1967) would depend on species and timber value. Low quality & high
amenity
they may just hand it to the LPA. If there is timber and relatively 
low amenity they may follow the first procedure with the assumption 
that the felling licence will be issued but have to listen to the LA's 
comments.
Depends also on whether it is a woodland TPO (assuming good forestry
practice) or other type.
Complex? Yes. Time consuming? Yes - the FC form is considerably 
longer & more detailed than a tree work application form. You may be 
better to
seek
planning permission, see what comes from it with a view to appealing.
Jon



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