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Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: Tree condition Damage to infrastructure and built works

Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: Tree condition Damage to infrastructure and built works
From: Michael Richardson
Date: Jan 11 2022 15:55:27
I also question whether trees are involved, what I think is definitely
involved are the typical homeowners that want to blame trees/the
council/the neighbours, etc.

If people had any proof, not supposition or unfounded blame, it surely
would have been mentioned in the story.

If large roots are at the houses surely there would be photos and perhaps a
consultant would have traced the roots to offending tree(s) (this could be
done by pneumatic excavation, by hand, by acoustics, or GPR).  If it is
subsidence surely a consultant would have said subsidence is a problem in
the area.

Lifting of tarmac next to the tree is one thing, destroying homes at a
distance is a far different issue.

Michael

Michael Richardson B.Sc.F., BCMA
Ontario MTCU Qualified Arborist
Richardson Tree Care
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On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 10:25 AM rodleslie@xxxxxxxxxxx.com <
uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info> wrote:

Looking at the photos the idea the buildings were being damaged by trees
staggered me. Yes, roots can spread well beyond the canopy, but there are
limits – and these houses looked way beyond them. I don’t claim any arb
expertise – but 2 weeks driving round the NE with Rodney Helliwel was quite
an education – and he said, as I’m sure most of you will know, that
insurance companies love to blame trees because its so much cheaper than
solving the actual problem – this looks like a case in point.

Rod

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From: oldoaktree@xxxxxxxxx.net
Sent: 11 January 2022 13:24
To: UK Tree Care
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Tree condition Damage to infrastructure and
built works

I know this street.

The trees are a very nice part of it, and it significantly increases the
nicety of this street as many close by are too narrow for any street trees.

Subsidence cases in the area are very rare.

I'd be more inclined to say that damage to buildings is more to do with
building design, perhaps the trees having a slight influence.

Plenty of earthquakes around here also from collapsing mines!

Cheers

Dave

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On Behalf Of Jerry Ross
Sent: 11 January 2022 11:26
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: Tree condition Damage to infrastructure and
built works

*"1:50 000 scale bedrock geology description: *Pennine Middle Coal
Measures Formation - Mudstone, Siltstone And Sandstone. Sedimentary Bedrock
formed approximately 310 to 318 million years ago in the Carboniferous
Period. Local environment previously dominated by swamps, estuaries and
deltas."

If it's like the mud/siltstone round here it'll be Low PI - mostly between
10 & 20.
(Although we're on brownstones of the Old Red Sandstone rather than Coal
Measures at Sneyd Green)


On 11/01/2022 11:00, Howe, Ron wrote:
So, what is the geology in the locality?

Ron Howe
Tree Officer (Planning)
Mole Valley District Council
Tel. 01306 XXX XXX
Website -www.molevalley.gov.uk


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It needs proper arb and structural engineer investigation to prove the
trees are responsible for the cracks in the houses.
Given size of trees I would err on the side of doubt it, but who knows.

Phillip

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<uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>  On Behalf Of Wayne Tyson
Sent: 10 January 2022 00:43
To: UK Tree Care<uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: Tree condition Damage to infrastructure and built works

Honorable Forum:

I am most interested in your individual "takes" on this particular
issue, as well as the issue in general.

Ever grateful,
WT
https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/stoke-on-trent-news/calls-fell-tr
ees-damaging-homes-6268903



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