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RE: thanks to forum for H&S policy!

Subject: RE: thanks to forum for H&S policy!
From: Jon Heuch
Date: Jan 21 2022 11:13:04
Yes

Both necessary (legally) and useful for all parties (client + consultant) to 
clarify roles. Not so bad when the consultant has established that a contract 
is in place and the terms and conditions of that contract are clear and 
agreed by both parties. If so, the consultant may be responsible, but what 
about the unexpected - something the client knows is on site but fails to 
tell the consultant (read my last para....)

A few months ago I had in front of me a claim, or at least a potential claim, 
by a surveyor who fell in a hole and ended up in hospital. An agent was 
involved. The agent was reprimanded (in the public domain, but you would need 
to look to find it).

Just who was responsible for the lack of a risk assessment? The agent? The 
self-employed surveyor? The land owner? There was a lot of blame being thrown 
around but it was the surveyor who was off work not earning a living.

The sites on which trees grow can be dangerous. Whether it be holes, glass, 
nails, passer bys, people on site who you didn't know were on site, 
dogs......all sorts of things can crop up. 

My greatest unexpected finding on site (apart from finding people in empty 
buildings) was found whilst digging a trench for a root barrier across the 
road from the US Ambassador's residence. A JCB was digging the trench when 
they found a hard object. Not too bad, just an old Victorian drain. On they 
went until they discovered something else a bit larger. After a bit more 
scrapping it looked a bit odd but as it was exposed it got bigger and bigger. 
We thought we better consult the Vicar. After a bit of thought , he 
remembered he had locked the door on an underground room about 10 years ago 
and had forgotten all about the room, so hadn't thought to tell anybody. 
Needless to say, we avoided the JCB falling into the room but not through 
planning the operation. A risk assessment would have been no use if an 
accident had occurred, but it might have been useful in retrospect to show 
that due diligence had occurred even if it had missed a fairly large issue.

Jon

 



-----Original Message-----
From: uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info <uktc-request@xxxxxx.tree-care.info> 
On Behalf Of "Rupert Baker"
Sent: 21 January 2022 10:01
To: UK Tree Care <uktc@xxxxxx.tree-care.info>
Subject: thanks to forum for H&S policy!

Dear Tin, Jonathan, and Philip,

Many thanks!

Goddam safety Nazis - I can understand the need for a health and safety 
policy if when it's carrying at work; but for a person bimbling around 
looking at a bunch of trees and occasionally tapping them is it really 
necessary?

Atb

Rupert




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